Talk:2005 Masters (snooker)

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Cue sports Mid‑importance

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WikiProject Cue sports to-do list:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Article requests : Lots of high-priority articles need to be created:

List of wanted articles...

Games: A bunch of high-priority game redlinks, e.g. American four-ball billiards (redirs to Four-ball billiards but not specifically covered there)
"Legends": Edwin Kelly, Charlie Peterson (pool player) (all BCA Hall of Famers); George Franklin Slosson, Maurice Daly (billiards player), Frank Ives, George Butler Sutton [not George H. Sutton, the one with no hands]
Male pool bios: Hsia Hui-kai
Female pool bios:
Male three-cushion bios: Dion Nelin & Jozef Bel Philipoom
Female carom bios: Aygen Berk Saygıner
Aristic pool bios: Nick Nikolaidis, Mark Dimick,Sebastian Giumelli, Eric Yow
Unranked in current pool but notable: Mike Eufemia, Shannon Daulton, Jimmy Reid (pool player) [speed pool champ], var. Mosconi Cup players
Non-player figures: Mitch Laurance, George Fels
Five-pins bios: Gustavo Zito
Organizations: Joss Tour
Events: WPA World Nine-ball Championships (pre-1997), BCA Open Nine-ball Championship, World 14.1 Continuous Championship, International Challenge of Champions (pool)
Media and misc.: Iwan Simonis (leading billiard cloth maker), Joss Cues (major cue mfr.), The Baron and the Kid [Johnny Cash film], Ultimate Pool Party [TV show]
And: everyone/thing listed at WP:CUEGAMES, WP:CUEEVENTS, WP:CUEORGS, WP:CUEBIOS, & WP:CUEMISC. Also a Cue sports world records article (many can be pulled from bio articles like Geet Sethi, Guinness Book will provide others, and so will BCA and other orgs., websites and books like Shamos 1999).
Meta: Outline of cue sports (OoK; cf. [1], etc.) – presently redirects to Cue sports, but this is not an OoK page.
Internal pages: Something like: [2][3]). Such pages are not fluff, but can be good places to find recruits for the project, possibly including subject-matter experts, especially if cross-referenced to the project. Also, Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Cue sports (cf. [4][5][6]).

Cleanup : Thomas Engert, Marlon Manalo
Copyedit : Jonni Fulcher
Expand : Cue sports techniques#Carom shots (section needs to exist), Straight pool, Alfredo de Oro,Jeanette Lee (pool player)
NPOV : Andy Segal (major WP:COI and WP:V issues, too), Jose Parica (it's bad!); Efren Reyes, Thomas Engert, Dennis Orcollo, Dick Jaspers
Photo : Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports and Category:Wikipedia requested photographs of cue sports people
Split : List of World Eight-ball Champions - blackball stuff needs own article {draft split from real eight-ball one (draft).
Stubs : loads of players in Category:Cue sports stubs
Update : Arcade game (link to bagatelle, bar billiards, etc.)
Verify : Cue stick (mostly WP:OR!), Frank Taberski (has major fact conflict between BCA & NYT sourcing), Russian pyramid, add sources to Unreferenced BLPs
Wikify : Chicago (pool), Jonni Fulcher
Other :
- Create timelines, both textual and graphical. See link for various guidelines and examples. We need an overall one for cue sports generally, and more specific ones as we drill down into more specific topics (timeline of nine-ball, timeline of Willie Mosconi's career, etc.).
- Form sections: Exhibition game needs section on cue sports; could later form a new article with "Main article..." xref to it. What other general articles need cue sports sections?
- CopyVio rewrite:
- Clarify: What is the "continuous pool" listed above "14.1 continuous" at Alfredo DeOro?
- Delete or defend:
- Move/Rename (and Redirect):
- Redirect:
- Unorphan:
- Ensure: that rules discussions in game articles & the Billiard techniques article do not violate WP:NOT#IINFO.
- Help fix: WP:CUEBIOS#Pool players (women) is nearly empty!
- Help develop: the lists of WP:CUEORGS and WP:CUEEVENTS
- Images: improve articles with images from commons; create pics and add them to commons as GFDL/CC-by/PD.
- Add: {{Sport overview}} to main articles of cue games that are real sports; medal table tags where they apply (see Ding Junhui for example).
- Insert: Cue sports events (tournament results, etc.) into the "year in sports" categories (e.g. 1965 in sports), using {{subst:Cue sports heading}} if that year doesn't have one yet.
- Change:
- Replace:
- Some day: Seek Featured Topic status.
- Plunder: the French article; it does have some interesting tidbits, structure and images. Check out de.wikipedia, etc., as well.
- Inter-wiki: Improve simple:Billiards and foreign-language key articles.

See also: Snooker to-do list

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Snooker Mid‑importance

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13th or 14th. Nigej (talk) 13:11, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

13th. Davis and Dott won on the 13th. Nigej (talk) 15:45, 11 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jimmy Brown?

Should Jimmy White be reference in this article as Jimmy Brown? I remember the HP Sauce deal at the time as mentioned in the lead, however that section is unsourced. Andygray110 (talk) 17:24, 21 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

This review is transcluded from Talk:2005 Masters (snooker)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Lee Vilenski (talk · contribs) 14:09, 29 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I am planning on reviewing this article for GA Status, over the next couple of days. Thank you for nominating the article for GA status. I hope I will learn some new information, and that my feedback is helpful.

If nominators or editors could refrain from updating the particular section that I am updating until it is complete, I would appreciate it to remove a edit conflict. Please address concerns in the section that has been completed above (If I've raised concerns up to references, feel free to comment on things like the lede.)

I generally provide an overview of things I read through the article on a first glance. Then do a thorough sweep of the article after the feedback is addressed. After this, I will present the pass/failure. I will use strikethrough tags when concerns are met. Even if something is obvious why my concern is met, please leave a message as courtesy.

Best of luck! you can also use the {{done}} tag to state when something is addressed. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}

Please let me know after the review is done, if you were happy with the review! Obviously this is regarding the article's quality, however, I want to be happy and civil to all, so let me know if I have done a good job, regardless of the article's outcome.

Immediate Failures

It is a long way from meeting any one of the six good article criteria -
It contains copyright infringements -
It has, or needs, cleanup banners that are unquestionably still valid. These include{{cleanup}}, {{POV}}, {{unreferenced}} or large numbers of {{citation needed}}, {{clarify}}, or similar tags. (See also {{QF-tags}}). -
It is not stable due to edit warring on the page. -

Links

Prose

Lede

A few WP:SEAOFBLUE issues in the first sentence. Try and re-organise to avoid. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The tournament was the 31st staging of the eighteen-player competition - has the event always been 18 players? Also, MOS:NUM says we should use numbers for those above ten. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
World Champion Ronnie O'Sullivan - seaofblue again Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
defeating 1999 - Should comment it was the 1999 Masters winner, as we've just mentioned the World Championship Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
ten frames to three (10–3) - either/or. We don't need both. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
claim his first tournament victory since 1995, - Masters victory. Else it reads like he didn't win a tournament since 1995. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
World Champion Ronnie O'Sullivan won the tournament, defeating 1999 winner John Higgins ten frames to three (10–3) in the final to claim his first tournament victory since 1995, and his second Masters title in his fifth appearance in the final and second in a row - sentence is very long. Suggest a split. Saying he won his second in-a-row isn't that useful, seeings they were ten years apart. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:00, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

General comments

The first two paragraphs are more of a format or overview section. Perhaps this should be split out to it's own section. The summary in my eyes should be a summary of what happened at the event itself. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is some more seaofblue issues throughout. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
1999 Masters champion John Higgins - reword. Avoid starting a sentence with a number. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
(who had an ear infection he had contracted three days earlier) 6–1. - this could potentially be it's own sentence. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In the final first round game Hendry - Hendry hasn't been wikilinked in the article to this point (or said who he is.) Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
snooker career int he event - typo? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In the other semi-final, O'Sullivan beat White (competing in a record-breaking 11th Masters semi-final) - it isn't super clear that it was White, not O'Sullivan that was competing in his 11th. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It was White's only response of the match. - this makes it sound like he didn't play another shot. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
In both of the Wild-card and main draw, we have floating references. We should really explain what the tables are. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Same with the centuries Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
good job with the flagicons! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
The following are duplicate links:
- Wembley Conference Centre, 2004 World Snooker Championship Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:19, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Notes & References

references look good. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

GA review (see here for what the criteria are, and here for what they are not)

It is reasonably well written.
a (prose, spelling, and grammar): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR): d (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Comments

Automated note - If you fancy returning the favour, I have outstanding GA nominations that require reviewing at WP:GAN. I'd be very grateful if you were to complete one of these, however it's definately not manditory. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)}
- MWright96 - not too much to note. WP:SEAOFBLUE is the big one, and floating refs and a couple other things. On hold. Shouldn't be too bad to fix for promotion. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:21, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Lee Vilenski: Have made all of the changes required to the article. MWright96 (talk) 16:09, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.